Comments on: Facebook's Mantra: Use Facebook Connect or Don't Connect at All http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090108/facebooks-mantra-use-facebook-connect-or-dont-connect-at-all/ by Peter Kafka Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:52:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Facebook stabs Meebo (and then becomes friends again) http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090108/facebooks-mantra-use-facebook-connect-or-dont-connect-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2319 Facebook stabs Meebo (and then becomes friends again) Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:57:04 +0000 http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/?p=2972#comment-2319 [...] P.S. Meebo grew in December. We reached close to 45 million people, a new record, including 2.5 million via Meebo Community IM. So it’s not all bad news… (source) [...] [...] P.S. Meebo grew in December. We reached close to 45 million people, a new record, including 2.5 million via Meebo Community IM. So it’s not all bad news… (source) [...]

]]> By: Facebook, Meebo Patch Things Up | Peter Kafka | MediaMemo | AllThingsD http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090108/facebooks-mantra-use-facebook-connect-or-dont-connect-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-2203 Facebook, Meebo Patch Things Up | Peter Kafka | MediaMemo | AllThingsD Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:05:00 +0000 http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/?p=2972#comment-2203 [...] with Facebook. Not true, said chief revenue officer Carter Brokaw — even though Facebook had forced Meebo to unplug itself from the social network, the two sides were working together and were about to patch things [...] [...] with Facebook. Not true, said chief revenue officer Carter Brokaw — even though Facebook had forced Meebo to unplug itself from the social network, the two sides were working together and were about to patch things [...]

]]> By: Sam Harrison http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090108/facebooks-mantra-use-facebook-connect-or-dont-connect-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-1633 Sam Harrison Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:41:21 +0000 http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/?p=2972#comment-1633 the best way to do identity is open source where no commercial company controls the login unfortunately, there's little "incentive" for anyone to develop the model has to be more like apache and linux...universal open id login... the best way to do identity is open source where no commercial company controls the login

unfortunately, there’s little “incentive” for anyone to develop

the model has to be more like apache and linux…universal open id login…

]]> By: William Dyson http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090108/facebooks-mantra-use-facebook-connect-or-dont-connect-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 William Dyson Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:28:55 +0000 http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/?p=2972#comment-1487 Hail to the Thieves So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have given users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity. Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding our Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates. All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites. Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ? Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ? Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ? Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want. At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. Unlike Facebook we also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust our community of members and developers. Break the chains of the old web 2.0 share cropping model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from your identity,relationships, content,or code Hail to the Thieves

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have given users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content.

Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the “Standard” for holding our Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. Unlike Facebook we also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 share cropping model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from your identity,relationships, content,or code

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