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		<title>Web Radio Darling Pandora Slips the Noose, But at a Cost: Heavy Users Have to Pay. Next Up: A Big Funding Round?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Web radio darling Pandora has good news for its users: We're saved! And a slightly different message for its heaviest users: Pay up. And perhaps a third message for potential investors: Want to write us a check?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/files//2008/11/clint-escapes.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-740" title="clint-escapes" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/20/files//2008/11/clint-escapes.jpg" alt="clint-escapes" width="285" height="206" /></a>Web radio darling Pandora has good news for its users: We&#8217;re saved! And a slightly different message for its heaviest users: Pay up.</p>
<p>Both messages are a result of long and tortured negotiations with record labels that have finally come to a close with a deal Pandora says it can live with, though it&#8217;s different than the one founder Tim Westergren said the site had nailed down in <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081106/digital-music-deal-nearly-done-but-web-radio-darling-pandora-not-out-of-the-woods/">November</a>. The flip side is that the service will now require users who listen to the service for 40 hours a month to pay 99 cents if they want to hear any more tunes that month.</p>
<p>And the big picture is that Pandora, which has been warning of its doom if it was required to pay steeper royalty rates, can switch gears and brag about its growth. Westergren tells me the service is motoring at a great clip&#8211;he says it is on track to generate $40 million in revenue this year, almost all of it from advertising, up from $19 million in 2008&#8211;and it can now accelerate.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that this is going to have a really huge impact,&#8221; he says. &#8220;We&#8217;ve been talking about going out of business for the last two years, and that&#8217;s not good for growth.&#8221;</p>
<p>The new arrangement might also convince investors to cut the service a big check. Earlier this year, multiple sources told me Pandora was looking to raise a very big round, perhaps in the $40 million range, and was talking to private equity shops about a deal. Westergren wouldn&#8217;t talk to me about fund raising, but it&#8217;s fair to assume that his company looks more attractive now than it did in January.</p>
<p>As for the deal itself, I&#8217;ll spare you the details, but in essence it&#8217;s a straightforward rate cut. The deal requires a lower per-song fee than Pandora and other Webcasters were supposed to pay under the terms the Copyright Royalty Board signed off on in 2007. It&#8217;s retroactive to 2006 and calls for an increase every year up through 2015.</p>
<p>The new deal means Pandora will be spending more than 25% of its revenue on royalties, but it will still be paying less than it would have under the old rules. Under the original terms, for instance, Pandora was supposed to shell out 14 hundredths of a penny ($.0014) per song streamed, per listener. Now it won&#8217;t pay that rate until 2015. Meanwhile tiny sites with less than $1.25 million in annual revenue will have a different structure.</p>
<p>The downside is that the deal will require Pandora to tax its heaviest users since it is still paying a per-song fee. &#8220;There&#8217;s a very small percent of listeners who are using it a ton, and that&#8217;s great, except when you&#8217;re paying per song,&#8221; Westergren says. He estimates the 99-cent fee will apply to a a &#8220;single digit&#8221; percentage of its 11.5 million monthly users.</p>
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		<title>Digital Music Deal Nearly Done, but Web Radio Darling Pandora Not Out of the Woods</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kafka</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Web music site operators and the music industry have worked out the major points in a deal that will reduce the fees Web site operators will pay for music streaming rights. A final deal between the Digital Media Association, which is representing the Web sites, and SoundExchange, which collects royalties on behalf of the music labels and other copyright owners, isn't expected until later this year. But "the hard stuff has been done," says Pandora founder Tim Westergren, who has become the public face of Webcasters during negotiations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2008/11/clint-escapes.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-740 alignright" title="clint-escapes" src="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2008/11/clint-escapes.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="180" /></a>Web music site operators and the music industry have worked out the major points in a deal that will reduce the fees Web site operators are supposed to pay for music streaming rights.</p>
<p>A final deal between the <a href="http://www.digmedia.org/">Digital Media Association</a>, which is representing the Web sites, and <a href="http://www.soundexchange.com/">SoundExchange</a>, which collects royalties on behalf of the music labels and other copyright owners, isn&#8217;t expected until later this year. But &#8220;the hard stuff has been done,&#8221; says <a href="http://www.pandora.com/">Pandora</a> founder Tim Westergren, who has become the public face of Webcasters during negotiations.</p>
<p>In September, <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/9/web-radio-darling-pandora-breathes-easier-for-now">Congress agreed to let the two groups hash out new terms</a> that would replace the ones that the government-appointed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Royalty_Board">Copyright Royalty Board</a> signed off on last year. Since then, Web radio sites, led by Pandora, have bitterly complained that rates would force them out of business.</p>
<p>The existing deal calls for Webcasters to pay an escalating fee to copyright owners every time they play a song for a listener. This year, for instance, Web radio stations are supposed to pay 14 hundredths of a penny ($.0014) per song streamed, per listener; site operators figure that will cost them about 2.1 cents per user, per hour.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t seem like much, but in order to cover those fees alone (before bandwidth and other costs), operators would need pull down many more advertising dollars then they&#8217;re getting now.</p>
<p>Site advocates figure they&#8217;d need to be able to generate a so-called CPM rate of about $21 for every thousand visitors (over the course of an hour) under the current fee structure. That&#8217;s a hard rate for big professional Web sites to achieve. And since users generally turn on a Web radio station, then look at other sites while it runs in the background, the format is a tough sell for ad buyers.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the new rate going to be? Westergren wouldn&#8217;t comment, except to argue that the compromise still calls for &#8220;tremendously unfair&#8221; payments when compared to the fees paid by satellite radio operator Sirius XM (SIRI). That company is supposed to pay between six percent and eight percent of revenue between now and 2012.</p>
<p>What about conventional radio? Those stations don&#8217;t pay a penny for so-called &#8220;performance&#8221; royalties, though the cash-starved music labels have asked Congress to change that. Good luck!</p>
<p>The big question: Will the new rates allow Pandora, and the many smaller Webcasters, to surive? Westergren says Pandora is on track to generate $20 million in revenue this year, but he wouldn&#8217;t say whether that would allow him to break even with the new proposed rates.</p>
<p>But <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081103/how-low-will-online-ads-go-lower-says-jp-morgan-very-very-low-says-gawkers-nick-denton/">Web advertising in general is under pressure</a>, and ad buyers say that their clients are <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20081106/mobile-ads-to-the-rescue-not-for-a-while/">increasingly skeptical</a> about trying out &#8220;experimental&#8221; mediums like Web video. So unless the rates get very, very low, or Westergren&#8217;s company has hired some very, very persuasive sales people, it&#8217;s going to remain a struggle.</p>
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